Given the state of the market, and the EB-2 backlog just aggravating each day with no sign of forward movement, how many of you with PD in 2016 or later are thinking of going back to school for PhD to get a a number of publications and citations? Even the market is changing and seems to favor those who can demonstrate experience in ML & AI. With 10 years of professional experience, all in U.S and a masters in CS prior to that, I feel PhD is a must for immigration and career development prospects for those born in India. I kinda remember my prof saying something to the same effect when he asked me to switch to the PhD program when I was graduating. Agree? #workvisa #h1b #google, #meta, #amazon ,
Just marry a citizen and file for divorce in 25 months
Lol, already married and have a toddler too.
Once your toddler turns 21 he can sponsor your green card
I think of it everyday. Even worse my undergrad research advisor actually showed me the pathway to doing that, by now I would've been PhD Mathematics. But I wanted to move into tech. Self sponsoring for GC After PhD doesn't make sense though because PD is not current for India. At the end of the day if you get a PhD because you're passionate about research or you're too afraid to get a job. If you're doing it for GC then it can be tough because your advisor will expect more of you. I know Chinese people tend to get PhDs for GC but their country has a strong base in academia and so they can publish in lesser known publications to get PhD with support from their professor
The pathway through PhD is get a PhD, apply for a job on Stem OPT ask them to sponsor O1 visa else try H1 and go for Eb1. Otherwise get a job in academia on cap exempt H1b get GC done while you're there and then move to industry. Someone who has done this can correct me if I'm wrong
No bud, if you already have a PD in EB-2. You will just need to find a job and if you are already eligible for EB-1A, you will get your GC immediately. Apart from GC itself, the time spent in school should hopefully keep you current in the industry for another 10 years.
You are talking about 7-16 yrs time spent in academia.
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What’s the helicopter in this context? Would love to take it.
Marrying a citizen is probably the helicopter here
Your phd will take 5yr. Citations will take few more years to accumulate. By then, eb1Cs would make eb1 the new eb2.
Even you missed the point. My question is for folks who already have an EB-2/EB-3 PD before 2021. Being eligible for EB-1 will let you port your EB-2/EB-3 date with EB-1 which will immediately be current.
Thanks for correcting. Let me suggest another challenge. The phd class will be 20yr old fresh grads from 🇨🇳🇮🇳. They won’t have a life outside phd, they gonna spend 10hr a day at the lab. You gonna be out of place in that environment.
Lol. Getting EU citizenship soon. Stay backlogged in stupid America.
Nice, I love USA & California. No other place will be as dear to my heart as USA & specifically, California.
Yeah but I think I got lucky for being a bit younger and making the wise decision for not moving to the US seeing the backlog. If I was five years older, I might have been in the backlog too.
If you come back to industry after academia, you will be offered a low-balled position unless you are a big shot researcher. It will take another 4-5 yrs to recover the lost opportunities. By the time, all your friends will be director and VP+ whereas you will be at staff or principal roles at max.
Not necessarily. I know a lot of people who never got promoted for several years and finally got multiple promotions in quick succession within a short span when their profile improved.
Ok. Plain and simple, tell me why do you need GC in concrete points?
Well few things- 1. I can then overbid on my dream house and live more comfortably. 2. Buy a more spacious car. 3. Wait for 5 more years to get citizenship, then travel to several countries without a visa. I can do 1. and 2. even right now but on a temporary visa, I feel that my days are numbered here and think of saving pretty much all I make before I go back to India. Seems like a waste of money to live like a king considering I will need to go back eventually.
I agree with the flexibility GC brings in. But, spending many years on a PhD all for 1, 2, and 3 you mentioned above seems like more cost than benefit. In fact, 1 and 2 are financial goals and a PhD with a student salary will be a net negative.
How about EB-5? Do you think that's another option many people would consider?
EB-5 is riskier. Getting a PhD would at least help career prospects.
Ongoing back to school will disrupt your life, , will move your life 5 years back and PhD is not easy Eb5 is less disruptive, you continue what you are doing while eb5 works in parallel and best case you have your conditional GC in 1.5 years. Yes it comes with cost.