PoliticsApr 30
Jacobsglvsnost

Liberal Democrats

Liberal Democrats don't have an identity and will never be able to self actualize because their core beliefs and values aren't tied to a concrete way of life and they just embrace whatever feels good mentally and physically in the moment with no given thought about the future and the consequences of their actions. Prove me wrong. TC: 250 Yoe: 8 #elections #uspolitics #politics

Salesforce b53fbz Apr 30

Okay. Let's look at the parties and see which have policy agendas. Which have a plan? Oh? Oh that's right. GOP is a cult and they literally do not have any policies declared. Sounds like only one side has a plan for the future. Case closed. Thank you, please try again once you get your facts straight.

Jacobs glvsnost OP Apr 30

You can't even hold down the fort. Notice how you just jump at the first moment you can at criticizing something I'm not talking about. Talk about Liberal Democrats, not the democratic party as a whole or GOP. Go on, waiting... What strong values do liberal democrats have

Microsoft Unret Apr 30

Social justice, reproductive rights, voting rights, economic equality, to name a few. And before you say it, liberal democrats have been static on these core beliefs. Your assumption that they aren't tied to a concrete way of life is incorrect. Just because protests are tied to current events, doesn't mean they've disposed of their core beliefs. The idea that protesting for equality isn't a way of life is also an incorrect assumption. Placing the needs of others ahead of your own is a way of life. If you think it isn't, then go make that argument to a nun.

Google gsir Apr 30

Yes, I am an independent person and I don't want to tie my entire identity to a political label. That's moronic and makes people easily manipulated > all Republicans hate gays "well gee I guess I gotta hate the gays now"

Jacobs glvsnost OP May 1

Who said political identity....

Google gsir May 1

You said identity and are talking about politics. What identity do you mean if not political one?

Amazon RKGp61 Apr 30

Fuck off we don't Liberal democrats have strong identity around working and middle class solidarity. We are the party that fixed the great depression. Won world war 2. Built most of the infrastructure. Introduced the 8 hour. 5 day a week work schedule. Reduced discrimination through the civil rights act. And put man on the moon. Don't confuse us for corporate dems, or modern gen Z type progressives. Classic liberal democrats go hard and carry this country.

Jacobs glvsnost OP May 1

You're talking about war democrats. Hawks. Not liberal dems. Very liberal democrats make up the majority of the progressive left. Socialists. Won WW2 lmao. The US came in late into WW2. They weren't ready for war. The British had the largest impact, and Soviet Union the most contribution. Germany lost most of their soldiers on the Eastern front. Liberal democrats don't give af about military posture. Sounds like you're a hawk brother. I can side with that. I respect war democrats.

Amazon RKGp61 May 1

Those are just trad liberal dems, hard-core unionism, class warfare, foreign warfare. Modern progressives are your typical rainbow flag middle class with no connection to Joe 6pack who actually is working class, who cares more for hunting season, mid 90s Ford pickups and the price of gas

NVIDIA VoteDem🗽 May 1

This is after GOP delayed critical aid for our ally for 6 months, resulting in many deaths and setbacks, just to throw a tantrum before getting back to a deal they could have started with from the beginning.

Jacobs glvsnost OP May 1

f*ck Trump, too. What aid? Decommissioned weapons? Is Ukraine not an ally of the rest of Europe? Where is their aid from neighboring countries? Why is Poland (the next country to be directly threatened) ranked 8th in aid at only $4b over countries like Germany at $14b?? And then there's the United States chumps in office allocating $67b + another $90b. 1/3rd population displaced, the rest of Europe is just sitting waiting for US to make decisions. I'm not worried about Russia / Ukraine. Russia isn't going past Ukraine and Poland fucking knows it. We're funding a proxy war.

NVIDIA VoteDem🗽 May 1

Naive position that's ignorant of history. Russia is definitely going past Ukraine. Once these military dictatorships start, they don't stop themselves, they have to be stopped by outside force. Because if they stop, people return to post war life, assess what they had before the war, what they got after, who they lost, was it worth it, and who's responsible. And if you look from before Russia invaded Crimea to now, ruble went from 30 to the dollar to 90, European energy market that took 50 years to conquer and sustained middle class lifestyle is gone, country is just resource vassal of China, hundreds of thousands dead and permanently crippled, and very little to show for it. Putin can't stop the war, or he'll be overthrown.

Meta meldleieñ May 1

You are 100% correct.