I've been looking for a leadership opportunity at my company (not Amazon) to transition to manager. I found an opportunity and volunteered to lead a small team. I led that team for about 9 months. My VP told me that the way to climb the ladder is to make problems go away. I quieted down the fires on that team so what he did in response is take away the resources (he thought they weren't needed anymore). So I had to fight to make the case for needing a dedicated team and reverse things. I succeeded there as well and he responded by starting a dedicated team (in Bangalore). Instead of promoting me to manager like we had always discussed, he now wants me to train up a new hire manager to take over. He also has no real plan for me after training the new manager. You would think my VP secretly hates me. If so, it must be super secret because I have repeatedly asked for feedback and get nothing but positive feedback. We're both white so it can't be that. What do you do? #outsourced #toxicvp #wth
You are screwed. When I expressed the wish to become a manager my boss created a few small teams in his group and I managed one of them.
Your VP sounds like a moron. You can’t fix stupid.
He's extremely young for a VP (maybe 33 y/o) and clearly did some kind of magic to get to VP at his age.
Do managers make less than ICs at your place? Some startups are this way, so your VP may have a financial motive to let sleeping dogs lie.
Technically what I'm asking for isn't even considered a promotion and would not come with comp changes
I mean, they can hire a new manager for less than what you make as a tenured IC. If that’s what’s happening, you’ll need to look for a new job.
Hire someone in India to do your job and give them half your salary
People have already been fired from this company for having more than one job
Are you training your replacement ? Are you expensive for the company ?
Yup and yup
quit
I am an L6 engineer. I am a boomerang. I became a VP of a startup, and a senior manager of another company in fintech. I never friggin liked being a manger. I was a great manager w/ as much/more pay than what I am making here. But it sucked. I was good but wasn't fun. My passion was more engineering stuff, I am not great at it (L6 but only because I job hopped) but stil having more fun
Amazon lol