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I've always heard of Meta being terrible in terms of WLB, stressful work, cut throat culture, with lots of politics and backstabbing. Curious to hear thoughts of folks who moved from MS to Meta on - 1) What were the major culture differences you observed? 2) Did your stress levels increase? 3) Differences in WLB? 4) Was the jump worth the extra compensation? My current profile- I have 10 YOE, all at Microsoft. Current Level: Principal IC TC: 320k #engineering #software
I’ll be paying your TC in income tax this year
1) is all just 5X more than Microsoft. I can't tell exact differences because every team in MS is different. One thing for sure though, you will never come across anyone close to dumb. I found a lot in MS and wondered how they were hired. 2) yes, a lot 3) 35 hours work vs 60 hours, at times so crazy that you will fear taking a sick day off 4) Yes, not a comparison. An E5 at meta will be making twice and L65 and thrice than L64. Amazing food !
After reading that I'm glad I failed my Meta interview. LOL!
Honestly meta interview is stupid. I got 2 mediums I had never seen before which I can solve both in like an hour prob. They wanted 45 min. At that pace and with the process I usually follow when doing leetcode, I intentionally solve them slowly to describe my process, something actually useful on the job. It’s mostly memorization if they expect you to solve in 45 minutes, and being able to solve them in 45 min tells you nothing. What’s important to pay attention to is the process of solving, not whether they got it right or wrong. I dont think they’re any “smarter” than other engineers. I was at amazon and msft and often at msft i encountered some people who seemed like they weren’t as sharp, but what i later found was it was entirely a leadership issue. They give projects with requiring pure tribal knowledge and the dude who is supposed to help doesn’t help at all — either intentionally or doesn’t care —
Is it peer pressure or top down expectations?
Went from Bloomberg to FB. Things I noticed: - If it’s not going on a person’s PSC aka performance review they’re not really gonna spend much time on any of your ask. But don’t hate the player, hate the game. PSC promotes this. - A single line manager can sometimes have 10-15 reports. This means less time for your problems. You’ll be expected to deal with more of your problems yourself, especially as E5+. You can leverage TL who might be dealing with fewer people though. - Barring for stock drops you don’t really have to worry about comp. The refreshers and performance multipliers ensure you’re at a good level. - The median rating is ironically EE aka exceeds expectations, one time above meets all. People are often hustling to ensure they get EE or only in the worst case MA. But over time I’d say as you become confident in your abilities and culture you can start ignoring this and just do enough to get MA and your manager happy. Now this’d also require some confidence that you can easily sustain for a while if you lose this job. I think having that is the key to taking a higher paying high stress job and reaping the benefits but not being too worried of oh what if I lose my job.
How many hours per week do you work at Meta versus Bloomberg?
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If you have to ask, you shouldn’t come. Really, especially with the TC: you get what you put in.
There is no relaxation and coast in this company, it is a constant pressure to underperform and keep growing, super close deadlines all the time and ABC...XYZ things that you have to accomplish every half, honestly if you are not used to working under high pressure all the time for years, don't get in meta.
Go one level down as E5. You will still get a good salary bump and can manage the stress and subsequently get promoted to Staff once you get used to culture
What do you mean? L65 is already E5, not a down level
Can you explain the scope of work at 6? I have 10 yoe and PhD in ML, I am targeting 6