Really torn between a 5th Gen 4Runner, 6th Gen 4Runner, Land Cruiser LC trim, GX premium trim and Rivian. Of course, these are all completely different price points. Why should I get a Rivian over a 45k car (5th Gen 4Runner) if I’ll never spend the price difference on fuel for next few years? Also how good are Rivian for long road trips? Both wife and I live in PNW and are super outdoorsy. Love car camping and climbing etc. tend to go to remote places where I won’t be able to find EV chargers easily. Edit: here are some non negotiable features: CarPlay Heated seats Heated steering wheel Ability to fold seats flat so we can sleep in the car Blind spot monitors Parking sensors
Grand wagoneer are sweeeeeet but prolly overpriced
unreliable fiat product. Notice OP only mentioned Toyotas and then you chime in with that stellantis POS
I’m from Michigan so I’m probably biased. Nobody really drives Toyota here.
Honestly really like the look of the new CRV and Pilot with the acventure-y trims
Those are crossovers, not SUVs
Bought a cheap bronco sport after looking at some of these models and really enjoying it. Still capable enough off-road to do what I need but easier to get around with in the city.
Broncos have a bad reliability history, and are more expensive.
Bronco Sport is not expensive. But it’s basically an Escape underneath so it’s not really “outdoorsy” aside from having a little extra ground clearance vs. a sedan.
4runner. Reliability, cost of maintenance, ability to handle almost nay terrain, cheap maintenance. You won't find the above qualities on a rivian that has limited capabilities in all departments, plus they are expensive
Get one of the 4 runners. If you are actually outdoorsy the rivian is a bad move. Electric limits your choices severely. Want to camp at certain climbing locations? Good luck charging if it’s slightly remote and not super popular . Electric cars are good commuter vehicle, not outdoorsy . T. Also climber who used to be on the west coast. Went with a Tacoma , but would have been just as happy with a 4 runner FJ etc.
You can take 7.5kW generator with you, it will charge overnight and takes 2 gallons of gas
And it will sink in the mud
subaru
Heard the subaru crosstrek is nice
Didn’t like cross trek, it feels like the car from 80s on highway
No one asked you
Subaru
Tesla
Get a 2017/2018 Lexus GX. It’s a baby Land Cruiser. Built like a tank and can take you anywhere. Or if the size ain’t a problem get a Land Cruiser, again used would be my recommendation
Wife’s first car is used. Definitely wants a new one this time around