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Why are some Jewish people against Israel?

Watched this vid on TikTok about a group of Israelis called Zionists that are pro-palestine and protesting against Israel. They say that the state of Israel is against their religious belief. Why is that? Isn't it good that Israel has their own state after everything that had happened to them in WW2? TC 160

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Google eiπ Apr 29

Trolling?

Cisco GundamSeed OP Apr 29

No bro, I srsly didn't know

Amazon dusushd1 Apr 29

you’re either a troll or just an idiot

Cisco GundamSeed OP Apr 29

I'm not trolling. Guess im an idiot

Amazon dusushd1 Apr 30

clearly

Microsoft sauce12 Apr 29

Zionism just means the establishment and continuation of a Jewish state, Israel is the location because it’s the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. Zionism doesn’t mean that a Palestinian state can’t, or shouldn’t coexist. Any Palestinian person that is pro two-state solution is also a Zionist. There’s extremism on both sides obviously.

Verizon jdis Apr 29

Isn’t the whole idea of Zionism is promoting Jewish immigration to Palestine land to create a Jewish state? How is that a two state solution? It’s intention is to take Palestine land.

PagerDuty inacircus Apr 29

That's not what the original founders of Zionist said in their writings. Herzl was explicit in that Arabs must be ethnically cleansed

Intel fatheroall Apr 29

Op go read why Einstein was against Israel, then come back to blind to be bent over

Cisco GundamSeed OP Apr 29

Tried googling it but nothing came out

Verizon jdis Apr 29

Zionism was a political movement of building and settling on Palestinian land. Being zionist isn’t the same as being Jewish or Israeli. There are Christians in America who are Zionist “Herzl formed the Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish immigration to Palestine in an effort to form a Jewish state.”

PagerDuty inacircus Apr 29

Most Jews were anti-Zionist at the time Herzl founded the Zionist movement. The idea that Zionism = Judaism is actually a new invention. Most Jews felt creating a Jewish Supremacist State without the Arabs permission would lead to increase in antisemitism and lack of safety for Jews all over the world. Also many Jews identified more with the countries they lived in not Judaism, i.e they were Polish before they were Jews as can be expected if your family history is in a country for 2000 years. Their are still Jews that consider Israel to be an abomination. Their is also religious pretext for it as Orthodox Jews considered the founding of Israel by atheists to be preempting the Messiah who would be the one to gather the Jews in one place based on prophecy.

Microsoft sauce12 Apr 29

Hamas bots go crazy on this app with misinformation 😂

Qualcomm Free🇵🇸💚 Apr 30

Yes and if any one said as PagerDuty here is saying, the zioinist will just say he is a Terriost, that's also how zioinist think.

Microsoft DesiStud Apr 29

It's just a bunch of rtards. Similar to how we have people in USA who keep protesting against USA. The general consensus matters, there will always be some morons

Amazon baror Apr 30

Look at the demographics of the student protesters, they are second generation immigrants who are citizens, so they know they cannot be thrown out of US. All if not majority of them are from non-sense idiotic undergrad fields like social sciences, charity sciences, liberal arts and all, so they anyway do not have a career to destroy, they did not have one to start with, all of them are feeding on their rich parents' money. Most of the students who contribute to society do not get bothered by these narratives which have no basis. The student protesters need to answer one question: will Palestinians accept the current Israel territory as Israel's permanent land and as long as they do not agree, nobody will shed a tear for them.

PagerDuty inacircus Apr 30

What current Israeli territory? If they do, is Israel prepared to offer them full citizenship?

SeatGeek sw41xa Apr 29

You mixed it up. Anti-zionists are those who are pro-Palestine and against Israel. Zionists are by their very name pro-Israel. Many very religious Jews are against Israel existing as a Jewish state because some interpretations of the Torah say that the Jews can only return to Israel when the messiah comes.

Apple HnsH76 Apr 29

Simple answer, like all conscionable humans they are against the genocide being perpetrated.

Google eiπ Apr 29

Op is saying they don't believe Israel should exist, so a bit different from your interpretation.

Delivery Hero xhsusuch Apr 30

Majority of jews 99% are for Israel, you have a few sad people who don’t understand what they support

PagerDuty inacircus Apr 30

Fake statistic

Delivery Hero xhsusuch Apr 30

And you are a fake account