H1b visa is temporary but H1b + I140 is a intend to immigrate state where folks get stuck here for long time. if you really don't want temp workers beyond certain time, don't give us I140. Or Give us I140 and reasonable wait time to get a GC. You would not understand the mindset unless you know first hand how it feels to be in this limbo. A promise of potential GC with constant extension of H1b and bleak hope for a fair law to get passed every year by a senator. We want to immigrate to this great nation because we love it here but It feels like US Laws abuses Indians more than Indians abusing US laws. ( Yeah ! Go back if you don't like it here, I hear you! I don't have to unless the Govt says so. ) We are just asking for a reasonable treatment just like everyone has. You feel justified looking us through the limited view of country cap lens but why do you not feel unjustified for us waiting an average of 20+ years in I140 + H1b status with 60 day notice only to get kicked out ? For Those of you who are not aware, H-1B is temporary. H-1B + I140 is Unlimited Temporary + you need to wait for your GC PD state. Big Difference. If the US don't owe us anything then they should not fake it. Haven't we proved enough that we are folks with good moral standing, paying taxes, contributing our part to the nation and minding our own business ? If you feel Indians are abusing visa system, the govt can and should always bring up more rules to tighten areas of abuse and not have a blanket xenophobic view about whole country of people where few bad apples are the real problem. I make zero decisions with hopes of some change in laws or rules anymore. Hope fellow Indians are prepared to leave at moments notice too. If enough of us move back home and when they don't have enough doctors in their ER or enough engineers in their critical projects, they will change their laws and start acting like they are the fairest country of the universe. They Don't take our needs seriously we shouldn't too. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-63658535 <<- Our Reality here in the USA #workvisa #h1b #140
No dude. You knew it was temporary when you applied for the visa. I get the frustration, but no, the US doesn’t owe us sh*t.
H-1B is temporary. H-1B + I140 is Unlimited Temporary + you need to wait for your GC PD state. Big Difference. If the US don't owe us anything then they should not fake it.
What are they faking? It's clearly written about quotas and everything. To me this seems like, booking a train ticket in wait list status and complaining that you are not getting a berth. Even I'm in wait list and I wish that they change rules but i don't honestly think they owe me anything.
We Indians keep pointing out what we think is the design flaw, refusing to accept that the flaw is by design. Republicans don't want us because we're too brown, and not Christian. Democrats don't want us because we are educated and not poor enough, relatively speaking. Let it go, wait for your turn.
Wait, Indians struggle with H1B? This is news to me.. source?
You should be happy that you at least have I-140. I know many that don’t and would kill to be in your place. It’s their country, we are visitors. We should learn to respect law of the land. Coercion and ranting is not how you get what you want. Is that how India got independence from the UK? You may think Gandhi was a loser but he got the country whatever was the collective aspiration at the time and people in the West still hail him as a hero today. Modi may have fooled you into thinking complaining and lying without any consideration for basic human values gets you what you want, but that will only work in India. You are in the US now and as long as you keep behaving this way, they will never give you or me our GCs. Learn to be polite, humble and respectful otherwise they will build the wall to keep all of us away!
Tell this to BLM.
I think you lack intelligence to understand how our efforts are misused and we are low key abused. Most of remained humble , polite and respectful under british rule until a disruptor like gandhi came and called them out on their bullshit. Consider me your gandhi mr.pesant. Do you think BLM would have mattered without george floyd ? They where exposed on their abuse openly. So unless something really bad happens and some movement arises to voice for what is fair, nothing will happen. The Goal of this post is to build more awareness among us Indians and call out their Govt on their game behind the curtains. Get GC or not doesn't matter. Fake promises are the real issue here.
If you don’t want the i-140, don’t take it. Why don’t you leave on your own accord after 6 years?
Law is already fair. And No US folks will not die due to Indian doctors leaving to India or US companies will not shutdown. Instead of constantly crying about this, lets do something useful. Try to learn options trading so that you can buy your way into EB5.
How to learn?
Don’t accept employment in these conditions. That will fix it. You need a worldwide union for collective bargaining. As individuals you don’t have power. But together you do.
A very level headed take OP. But you have to look at things from American POV as well. We Indians criticize America for handing out GCs to Europeans. Yet how many Europeans are even moving here? Indians are master of gaming the system. There are so many dimwits with immeasurable black money back in India who are and will continue to exploit it. Everyone know the consulting route but let me tell you about a new consulting route. I have a friend whose relative started a fake consulting in usa. He got h1b through that consulting. His dad sends money to this relative back in India, the relative takes a cut and pays the remaining back to my friend as "salary". You think 500k Indians in GC queue is bad? If America created a fixed timeline to GC, it just becomes a number. It's crazy that my friends are making 5x more in black money in India than I am my Meta salary! 10-15 crore isn't a big deal for many. Just look at home prices in major cities in India! Who tf has 5cr to buy 2bd 800 sqft apartments in Mumbai!
I agree with you for the most part. But US don’t really owe us anything. However the country quota really frustrates me. They can implement merit based policies to help every immigrants irrespective of which country they come from. US is basically enjoying high taxes paid by immigrants, we pay unemployment taxes here in CA (which we will never see), we will buy nice houses and pay a lot of property taxes (just to realize the American dream), and growing US companies with our skills. We are expendable to them, so these laws will never change.
No what @op said is exactly right