Hey, I’m a new grad and was made an offer from Expedia a while ago. I kept doing interviews with other companies partly for practise and also hoping I’d get a much better offer. Today Twilio got back to me with an offer (and apparently a strong hiring vote, whatever that means) and I wanted to see what Blind thinks of it compared to my original offer: Expedia (already signed): Salary: £51.5k Relocation bonus: £2k Other benefits: £800/year RSU: $40k (2 year cliff, 50/25/25 paid yearly) Pension: 3% + 6% *TC = £54.3k (then £66.3k in year 2 due to RSU’s)* Twilio: Salary: £41.2k WFH allowance (one-off): $500 Monthly benefits: £200 (+ £60 while working remotely) RSU: $72k (1 year cliff, then paid quarterly) Pension: 4.5% + 7% *TC = £56.8k* Holidays are the same (25 days) and both offer a range of benefits in exchange for salary (eg health insurance). I told Twilio I had another offer, in the hopes they would have some space for negotiation but the recruiter told me that in the interest of fairness there is no negotiation for early careers at all. I queried whether RSU was negotiable even if salary was not, but that was rebuffed too. Is it worth bringing up with the hiring manager as opposed to the recruiter? I should also mention that Twilio is a frontend role, all React and TypeScript. Whereas Expedia is a rotation (for grads) where I will do the first 6 months of AWS/Kubernetes stuff. Thanks! #tech #negotiateeoffer
wow no wonder the company likes hiring from outside the usa
London, dude! Got to work with what I’ve got. 😆
LOL I’ll probably cancel my interview with Twillio 😁
I do wish these things were more available, tbh. I’ve been led on to hear at the end something much lower than expected. But hey, that’s what Blind is for! Hope this post is useful to you, and others
I think the market shifted a bit in the past couple years. Was already thinking of going to Amsterdam and then maybe to US. Keep fighting, if you join, do not stop your search for a better offer!
10k base is quite a difference. Especially in London. Will you be okay with 41k? Did you calculate what is take home etc?
That’s true, but TC is much closer, Twilio taking the lead due to RSU’s
Is this offer for software engineering role ?
😂 Yes.
I just added some details of the roles to the post. Thanks 😉
Team?
Don’t want to give too much away. But I did add details of the roles to the original post
In Expedia nowadays it’s all about team. If you end up in a good team, you’ll have tons of things to learn and do specially early career as well as opportunities to grow and be promoted. RSUs are definitely on rise but keep in mind they canceled bonus. Now if you end up in a bad team/division then good luck my friend! One day you’re hired and the next fired
Both are similar in terms of TC, I would consider other factors such as career growth and future TC increases, expected company stock appreciation Etc. Also likely that you will switch job after 1 or 2 years so best to think about which role will maximise your future opportunities after 1-2 years and what you want to learn
What is your current location op?
London, 🇬🇧
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Twilio over Expedia even if tc was same. Twlo has better upside plus you have more twlo units than Expedia and only one year cliff
Take Twilio. Think long term and not short term. It has a far better upside than Expedia.