Hello, This is my first first post on any "public" forum...EVER. I am currently a Nurse Practitioner (NP) working in home care/transition of care for a start-up now being wholly acquired by our primary capital venture (UHG). I am seeking to move into medical affairs with any industry- pharma or medical device or biotech. WHY am I looking to leave? I feel like a mule in patient/provider roles and would like more respect for what I bring to the table and there is little career growth in these roles-- I'm bored and unengaged. I have become interested in medical science liaison (MSL) positions however, I may become pretty exhausted after a few months of being "on" in-front of NPs, PAs MDs, PharmDs, PHDs, and other health care professionals (HCPs). Open to any therapeutic area to start and would ultimately love to end up in psychiatric/mental health therapeutic area. I am completing a post masters certificate in psychiatry and mental health (PMHNP) in May 2022. I have very little intention of continuing to work in a patient-to-provider role anymore. Just secured a sweet as-needed (prn) gig in a ketamine clinic. That should suffice any itch I have to be a provider. My ideal job (if I must continue working and it won't feel like work) is the following: - 75-100% remote - more computer based ie give me an assignment or task by a certain date and I will get it done - not too much colleague interaction, prefer telecommuter role and talking over email/slack/teams or whatever else is out there. The less coworker interaction the better. -latest innovation product or medication or trial to keep me interested. I can geek out for HOURS on things that interest me! -occasional interaction with industry peers would be okay- I believe this route I would feel like a contributor to the profession not a mule. I am falling in rabbit holes looking in positions and this year have gotten very few callbacks. Early 2021 I also felt this way and redid my resume to get hits for MSLs but that really isn't what I want to do (I think). I included words like thought leaders (TL), key opinion leaders (KOLs) and was able to use/leverage my selling/persuasive skills of selling a product (ie: working for a start-up; opening territories; and engaging patients/providers to use my services without name or brand recognition) as ways to get second and third round interviews. I feel very comfortable with TL and KOLs (edited). I got to the presentation stage for a Phillips job but just wasn't comfortable with base salary (75k) despite the idea of big bonuses. Ideally would like my salary to be in $180K range. Is that feasible? How do I leverage my science background, being a clinician and now moving into a different industry and as close to possible as my ideal job? I would love your input. happy to fill in any gaps to better answer questions. Current Stats years of experience (YOE): NP 5 in healthcare 12 (RN [7] + NP [5]) Total compensation (TC): $65/ ~135 bonus: 10% of annual salary. never got anywhere close to 10% 19 PTO days = sick and vacay in same bank #health #healthcare #biotech #pharm #bigPharma #MedicalAffairs #ClinicalAffairs #MedicalAffair
Check out Regulatory Affairs, Clinical Evaluations (Technical Writing), Post Market Surveillance. You will likely start out around 120k in Tech Writing for any meddev or biotech.
Damn, you went beyond TC, gave us the entire stat breakdown. Respect.
For real, as soon as they said it was their first post I was getting ready to post tc and gtfo but they Rekt me
Hiā¦I can refer you to any roles at Anthem. Also someone I know personally is a nurse by profession but is now working in the industry since many years. Please dm to chat further.
Random question, my sister is a burnt out RT who is desperate to leave direct patient care. Any roles at Anthem I could advise her to apply to?
Your salary is pretty doable but I think the low energy/non-socializing doesnāt make you the most ideal candidate for most of these interaction based roles? The more social/political you are, the higher you can go (where your expected salary is)
Try Oscar Health or Devoted Health
My personal suggestion for a thought leader role, avoid any task based assignment work. Would you be open to work as a SME and partner with techical team to build next generation solutions in healthcare like nurse triage assessment. If interested, ping me and will connect
PM me.
Check out Health Catalyst jobs. Terrific remote-first company with good compensation and culture.
Thank you for posting. Please ask your co-workers to join too. We need people for various industries here, currently Blind is too tech heavy.
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I mean I can refer you to Medical Affairs roles for JNJ/Janssen but you wonāt be getting $180k. Also, to be honest, it sounds like the work you want is fairly low level (task-based, given a deadline, work alone mostly)ā¦higher level roles with your salary expectation donāt really work like that. Also, a KOL is usually a person who is well-known in a specific field, a go-to person for interviews, are you that person? Or are you more a subject matter expert (SME)? Whatās your location?
Thanks for the response! My low level-ness is honestly coming from being burned out. I went part time at my current position and it has helped alot. I know it will have to be boots on ground when trying to pivot; im regaining some mojo! Trying to change my outlook on that - working on it. My salary expectations are high. I see such huge fluctuations in salary and roles/responsibilities here and on reddit, I figured go high but also don't want to price myself out. Does what I am looking for fit any role you've seen or worked with? What are titles and starting salaries? I was eyeing a role at Janseen with the esketamine commercialization. It goes against everything in my ideal but it is my ideal! Not a KOL or SME!- current position just doesnt allow for an NP to shine; most clinical roles dont unless you are teaming with a top physician or into something novel. Thanks for the check! I am welcome to any and all feedback! I am in NYC metro area/bedroom communities. I can go back to NYC or be happy in CT or NJ. Also, adding I got into car accident (Feb 2022) while working and my car was totaled (such a bad time to be in market for a car right now) and I hurt my hip. So that was adding to my low-levelness of my ideal job (wanting mostly remote). I am getting over it (current job handed it very poorly) and am open to traveling out again but would prefer remote!
NJ is good, tons of pharma opportunities, including JNJ/Janssen. Consumer health care has these too, such as JNJ, Colgate, the GSK spin off company, etc. But most of these are hybrid (2/3 days a week in office). Ignore salaries on Blindātech pays way more than pharma, and the roles on Blind you do see are mostly software engineers.