Recruiters should make 1/5 of their current salary
Why do recruiters deserve the high salary for work literally any highschooler can do? I agree recruiters are necessary so why can't companies just hire more of them and pay them less? There would be faster response time, no ghosting, and more actual engineering productivity. Do you agree?
Clever way to find out how many recruiters are here
Recently went through a bunch of interviews, and I can tell you recruiters make a world of difference. Got a high TC offer because the recruiter really coached me on how to handle the executive interview round, and was then available on weekends as well to answer my questions on the offer. Can tell from my experience that they work really hard and deserve every bit of whatever they are making now , may be even more
Ok.. that's their job.
Agree with Walmart. Much better to have a fewer number of recruiters that are high quality than a ton of shit recruiters.
1/5 is too much given how often they ghost people. I think their pay should also be reconsidered and not just conversion rate alone. Btw just curious - are they PIPed too ?
Lol idk what criteria they have for a pip. Maybe if they forget how to type into the linkedin search bar or something 🤣
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recruiter role can be eliminated alltogether
For the same reason most engineers get paid so much and are about as good as the average high schooler would be 🤷♂️
You're completely delusional, almost no highschooler can come close to an engineer's technical skills. Yet almost every single highschooler can easily do any recruiter job effortlessly.
What about PMs? There are projects where there are more managers than actual folks working. In a meeting, there will be max 2-3 folks actually working and 5 folks managing, LOL!!! WT$
others in line QA, BA, program coordinators, hr coordinators, program managers
QA has very high variance. Some cause more damage than they are paid but the best QA is easily worth as much as any IC engineer. Being able to induce complex failures reliably is an art few are able to master. To be more clever than the cleverest ICs is no easy feat. But too many view QA as a backdoor way into dev work. They are mostly trash and should be disposed of.
If OP is so confident then maybe there's a business opportunity. Create a SaaS-enabled recruiting firm that standardizes internal knowledge and procedures so entry-level folks can just hop in and start matching candidates to job openings with minimal effort. As for me I voted 'no'. I suspect the compensation in recruiting is probably at least *somewhat* reflective of the difficulty of recruiting and the competitiveness of the market. I also think OP is pointing at the top end of the recruiting market but there are probably a lot of mediocre recruiters making mediocre salaries too.
Buddy, difficulty of recruiting is myth. There's thousands of well qualified candidates at every moment. If you've ever seen an engineering manager post a single job posting on linkedin, it gets flooded by so many well qualified candidates. Stop trying to justify how hard it is to search for 'engineer @ xyz'
Sup friendo, you're the one posting with 100% confidence not me. You have a billion dollar business you should go start. You know the magic formula of recruiting, which is hires tons of HS grads and give them verbatim scripts. Go shake up the market and prove recruiters are overvalued. But that's not going to happen, you're just here to complain and be bitter. Maybe recruiting is mostly BS as you say but spend 15 seconds thinking of reasons why it might not be.
I was kind of surprised how much they make at good companies. Doesn't seem like that touch of a job.
Its not. Go watch their activities for even a day, they'll be casually searching and posting bullshit on linkedin or planning an intern event. Literally not a job worth paying more than $50k
Friend is one for a tech company we've all heard of. Makes good money and works a few hours a top he says. He said the competition for being a "great" recruiter is pretty slim so it's easy to stand out
Most startups don’t have recruiters anyways. Big tech can afford to throw money at recruiters.
how much do they get
Can easily go beyond 300k for like 5 yoe at tech companies
wtf...