FIRE and fat fire is nothing to be idolized
There are average people who lead average lives- mediocre academics and no early age accomplishment, mediocre job and pay, mediocre everything. Then there are exceptional people who change the world and do great things and rise up above the rest. FIRE and “fat fire” belong squarely in the first category. If you are a fire with a couple million living some nobody life, good for you. You don’t have to work, but don’t kid yourself into thinking you achieved anything with your life. TC 550 Yoe 4.5
You sound salty
Is your tc paper money? I assume its inflated due to notion’s high valuation?
Most of it is paper money
OP has worked 4.5 whole years and still hasn't achieved anything. Everyone point and laugh 😂 🫵
Have you been talking to your parents recently?
I don't idolize people that fire but I'd like to spend more time with my kids and work on things I find interesting without worrying about a paycheck.
Agree. The fundamental problem with people who are obsessed with retiring early is that they hate their job/profession and this hatred clouds everything else in their life. If the only thing you can think about is how soon you can retire, you're a fundamentally unhappy person. But solving this problem by saying "I'm going to hold my nose and keep working until I've saved enough to not work" is probably not the healthiest solution. What these people really need is an immediate professional pivot. But that's much harder to do than saying I'm going to stare at the numbers go up in my Vanguard account. The other problem is that trying to soothe this pain becomes such an obsession that they forget the really meaningful and rewarding aspects of life like making a positive difference in the world (the category 2 stuff like you said). Instead all they can focus on is making the pain stop and this consumes their life like a disease. My only advice to these people (I used to be one, that's how I know) is to retire immediately i.e. take a sabbatical. What are you holding off until retirement? Do all those things now. Then come back to a different job and see how you feel.
Holy sh*t, what a sad judgemental comment. Life isn't about slaving for Bezos, Zuck, Brin ... or even CCP 😂 FIRE isn't about hating your job (some may hate their job but this is a huge generalization that couldn't be further from the truth). First of all it's about financial independence, no need to fear the job loss or being a slave for big corporations. It doesn't mean you have to stop working. When people reach FIRE some indeed just chill and relax, most continue working or pursue other endeavors (working for startup or starting your own startup, teaching or even completely unrelated field). My friend was manager reached FIRE, transferred back to IC (he loves coding and designing systems), works half power ... the other half he's really into music, has his own band. If this is what he enjoys so be it.
I believe the second half of FIRE is "retire early". If your goal is FI then whatever, there's no problem. I also aim to FI, I live very lean and save-invest 75% of my net.
Well they have achieved financial independence which 99% of the world at the moment cannot achieve
Why do you have to “achieve” something? Everyone is different and values different things in life. Maybe enjoying hobbies or maximizing time with family and friends is more important to someone. I don’t think many people die saying they wish they worked harder or earned more trophies.
No one else can define success for you. I personally think someone who is able to FIRE beat life and can pursue the ultimate form of happiness and leisure and personal freedom. Truly living on their own schedule and with infinite time with their loved ones is the most valuable blessing. And very very few people achieve it. And for those that don't, there's nothing wrong with that either. Being financially independent and retiring is a luxury in most parts of the world unfortunately.
There is always going to be someone better than you in one way or another. It doesn’t diminish one’s own achievements.